on thursday we had on the president of the united states. what happened was, and this is the truth, goldie hawn had been scheduled. [laughter] a last-minute conflict. so since the president was already in town for a previously scheduled traffic logjam, he stopped by for a 12-minute, you know, [bleeped], featuring all the standards, solid biden in a wet bathing suit gag, a couple, where the hell were you in the first debate zingers. yeah, those are real, baby. good old housing happen. reference, a smattering of some sober reflection, as well, concerning libya. i would say even you would admit it was not the optimal response, at least to the american people as far as us all being on the same page. >> well, here's what i'll say. >> jon: yeah? >> if four americans get killed, it's not optimal.